Comments on: Its all Michael Eaton’s fault for pledging his allegiance http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/ babblings of a computer loving fool Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.2 By: Michael Eaton http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/comment-page-1/#comment-29846 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:20:41 +0000 http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/#comment-29846 Jay,

I’m not sure how to respond to your post. I don’t see the Pledge as a “fascist poem” and I would certainly not characterize our current administration as being fascists.

Also, looking at the definitions you posted for the word allegiance…I tend to believe #2 is more in the spirit of this discussion.

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By: Michael Eaton http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/comment-page-1/#comment-29845 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:44:52 +0000 http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/#comment-29845 matt, I agree with much of what you say, but I do not believe the act of saying the pledge is turning anyone into unthinking sheep (I’ll leave that to MTV).

It does suck that more people don’t get out and vote. It does suck that people have screwed up priorities (driving vs. voting). Any ideas about how to fix the problem?

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By: Matt http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/comment-page-1/#comment-29844 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:44:40 +0000 http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/#comment-29844 I’m not sure the feudal model is appropriate; the responsibility flowed from vassal to liege and from liege to vassal. We don’t seem to get much of the downstream flow from this crap.

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By: matt http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/comment-page-1/#comment-29843 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:54:35 +0000 http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2007/09/28/its-all-michael-eatons-fault-for-pledging-his-allegiance/#comment-29843 but jay, how else are they going to turn the american populace into unthinking sheep? memorization != learning. when more people vote in american idol than the presidential election or think that driving is a more important “right” than voting or free speech… we have a serious effing problem.

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